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Linch's avatar

I think a much more likely scenario, unfortunately, is partial or full nationalization of AI companies, including eg the executive branch having a ton of control over the details of the alignment target of frontier AIs, controlling model releases, etc.

Fairly concerning as it has its own set of power concentration and safety issues, of course.

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I agree that in general, private firms should not have the power of nation states. Although, neither should nation states. We should allow firms to increase in capability at least until they can compete with governments. When they are comparable to each other, we can propose regulations that each can impose on each other. However, proposing the least accountable organizations impose rules on the ones that are already somewhat accountable runs the opposite direction from where we should be headed, and keeps the least accountable organization (the government) at the runaway risk that we are worried about. If, however, AI firms were to have such power while nation states also have similar power, then I think that would be a substantial improvement to the status quo.

For one, it would introduce competition into regulating society which in itself provides alternatives, an ability for people to compare between the providers, learn which regulations work and which ones don’t, and likely drives pricing for regulations downwards with increased supply of regulatory services.

Second (and perhaps most importantly), it will alter the public’s perception toward the morality of the regulation in a beneficial way. Currently, government agents can regulate in ways that are perceived by the public as justified, when any non-government agents behaving the same would be viewed as unjustified. Take for example levying taxes. Government agents currently demand people give them money and if they do not, they will lock them in a prison. Most people find this behavior morally permissible. If Amazon employees did it, most people would view it as morally impermissible. When a private company is capable of enforcing regulations similar to how a government does, then the perception of the actions of agents within those companies shifts to judging whether their actions are justified or not, similar to the way they would judge any ordinary person taking those actions. Whether they belong to a specific organization would be irrelevant to the moral judgement. The powerful organization’s agents wouldn’t be treated as uniquely justified in behaving in ways that other organization’s agents behaving similarly would be treated as unjustified. This is an improvement to the status quo where that isn’t the case.

As the firms increase in power, they would cross a threshold of being capable of competing with governments without being powerful enough to take them over. This is probably the most beneficial zone for society since there will be true competition. That competition would make it less likely for either to takeover the other, and more likely that more competition exists down the road. However, even if firms become so powerful that they takeover and become just like governments, it’s possible that they are more competent, responsive, and less corrupt. But if we disregard all of that and just assume they will be at best, just as bad, then we should wonder why we should view that situation differently than the way we view governments existing now. All of the reasons to want to avoid the scenario as proposed, are all reasons to change the status quo as is.

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